A young guy from Nebraska moves to Florida and goes to a big "everything under one roof" department store looking for a job. The Manager says, "Do you have any sales experience?" The kid says, "Yeah. I was a salesman back in Omaha."
The boss liked the kid and gave him the job. "You start tomorrow." I'll come down after we close and see how you did."
His first day on the job was rough, but he got through it. After the store was locked up, the boss came down. "How many customers bought something from you today? The kid says, "One".
The boss says, "Just one? Our sales people average 20 to 30 customers a day. How much was the sale for?"
The kid says, "$101,237.65 ".
The boss says, "$101,237.65? What the heck did you sell?"
The kid says, "First, I sold him a small fish hook. Then I sold him a medium fishhook. Then I sold him a larger fishhook. Then I sold him a new fishing rod. Then I asked him where he was going fishing and he said down the coast, so I told him he was going to need a boat, so we went down to the boat department and I sold him a twin engine Boston Whaler. Then he said he didn't think his Honda Civic would pull it, so I took him down to the automotive department and sold him that 4x4 Expedition."
The boss said, "A guy came in here to buy a fish hook and you sold him a BOAT and a TRUCK?"
The kid said, "No, the guy came in here to buy Tampons for his wife, and I said, 'Dude, your weekend's shot, you should go fishing.'"Joke; The Ultimate Salesman ... :)?
Ha i like, very funny
Awesome!
Keep it coming!
:)
(Ans)Joke; The Ultimate Salesman ... :)?
hahahahah that is funny. lol
I liked itJoke; The Ultimate Salesman ... :)?
ha good one
Now we all that cinderella wanted to go the ball but her evil stepsisters stopped her.She felt really sad and wept in the garden.
Suddenly, the fairy godmother appeared before her and said she will help her to grant her desires but under a few conditions
"firstly, u must wear a diaphragm" said the fairy godmother.
cinderella hesitated but finally she agreed
"secondly u must be home before 2 am or ur diaphgragm will turn into a pumpkin" said the fairy godmother.
cinderella refused but the fairy godmother told her about the ball, the food and the handsome princes. So cinderella agreed.
So with her beautiful gown and carriage, cinderella went to the ball.
She enjoyed herself very much.
Meanwhile the fairy godmother waited for her.
time passed really fast:
12 am
1 am
2 am
3 am
4 am
but cinderella was not back yet
Finally, cinderella arrived back at 5 am.
The fairy godmother was really angry and shouted " where the hell have u been, ur diapragm should have turn into a pumpkin
cinderella replied calmly "well it is taken care of"
"by who?" asked the fairy godmother
Cinderella: Peter, Peter the pumpkin eater
that is funny.......lol thx
hehe
Monday, January 23, 2012
Is it necessary to take the RI boating course in order to get my boater's license?
I'm 14 and would like to get my boating license. My brother (19) and his friend/boss (43) just got a 27 year old Boston Whaler. It is 18 feet long and has a 150 horse power engine. My brother's friend grew up around both sail boats and motor boats. He has had multiple boats before and is willing to help me learn. They are both confident I can learn how to handle the boat by studying on a website. I sail 420's over the summer and know a lot about the water. I know there's a lot to learn but I'm sure I can learn most from the website. What I can't learn from the website I can learn from actually driving the boat. I have heard from some people that have a boater's license that I have to take a course to get my license but others have told me I only have to take a test to earn it. I would like to know whether or not I have to take the course or can I just study and take the test. THANKS!!!Is it necessary to take the RI boating course in order to get my boater's license?
while it is probably much easier to go through the boat ed boaters safety course first, RI does offer a Challenge exam where you can take the boaters safety test without taking a course.
for more info on the proctored Challenge exam go to the web site below
http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/bnatres/e…
from the web site
"There is no registration and no fee for this exam. There is also no age limit, but be advised that this test deals with material that may be complex for younger children. We highly recommend taking the full boating safety course to insure you and your family understand the material required to operate and navigate vessels on the water safely. If you have chosen the challenge exam as the method of certification, you will need to study information presented in “Boat Rhode Island, A Course on Responsible Boating” and “The Handbook of Rhode Island Laws and Responsibilities”. Both publications are available either on the web through the online course or by contacting DEM/Environmental Police at (401) 222-3070 for the home study packet."
hope this helpsIs it necessary to take the RI boating course in order to get my boater's license?
All you have to do is follow the instructions at boat-ed and take the online course. Pass the test... and that's it. It really is that easy.
The course is going to teach is "boat %26amp; boater safety". It can't teach you boat "handling"... That, comes from hands on experience.
Good Luck,
John
while it is probably much easier to go through the boat ed boaters safety course first, RI does offer a Challenge exam where you can take the boaters safety test without taking a course.
for more info on the proctored Challenge exam go to the web site below
http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/bnatres/e…
from the web site
"There is no registration and no fee for this exam. There is also no age limit, but be advised that this test deals with material that may be complex for younger children. We highly recommend taking the full boating safety course to insure you and your family understand the material required to operate and navigate vessels on the water safely. If you have chosen the challenge exam as the method of certification, you will need to study information presented in “Boat Rhode Island, A Course on Responsible Boating” and “The Handbook of Rhode Island Laws and Responsibilities”. Both publications are available either on the web through the online course or by contacting DEM/Environmental Police at (401) 222-3070 for the home study packet."
hope this helpsIs it necessary to take the RI boating course in order to get my boater's license?
All you have to do is follow the instructions at boat-ed and take the online course. Pass the test... and that's it. It really is that easy.
The course is going to teach is "boat %26amp; boater safety". It can't teach you boat "handling"... That, comes from hands on experience.
Good Luck,
John
What type of fiberglass do you use for a jon boat?
ok... we have about a 14?ft jon boat that needs the whole outside refiberglassed now when I started looking online to buy some and noticed theres all diffrent ounce sizes and weaved diffrently and not to mention a hundred diffrent types of resin I want some thing that will hold up but not might as well buy a 22 foot boston whaler after all the money we put in to it!
so what once or what site should I go to or just the excact name or the fiberglass and resin to buy for that project and thanks in advance!What type of fiberglass do you use for a jon boat?
YOU ACN FIBERGLASS SHEETING 4FT, BY 20,30 FEET ROLL. YOU CAN GET THIS LARGE QUANITY AT A STORE THAT SELLS AIRCRAFT SUPPLYS. IF YOU LIVE NEAR AROUND A PRIVATE AIRPORT, GO TO THE HANGER, AND TALK TO THE PARTS MGR. AND HE WILLSELL YOU SOME.What type of fiberglass do you use for a jon boat?
if the boat needs to be refiberglassed you might as well get rid of it. Maybe what you need is an epoxy sealer or something to rehab the gel coat. Thats what really keeps the water out. Have you talked to anyone at a boat supply store??
so what once or what site should I go to or just the excact name or the fiberglass and resin to buy for that project and thanks in advance!What type of fiberglass do you use for a jon boat?
YOU ACN FIBERGLASS SHEETING 4FT, BY 20,30 FEET ROLL. YOU CAN GET THIS LARGE QUANITY AT A STORE THAT SELLS AIRCRAFT SUPPLYS. IF YOU LIVE NEAR AROUND A PRIVATE AIRPORT, GO TO THE HANGER, AND TALK TO THE PARTS MGR. AND HE WILLSELL YOU SOME.What type of fiberglass do you use for a jon boat?
if the boat needs to be refiberglassed you might as well get rid of it. Maybe what you need is an epoxy sealer or something to rehab the gel coat. Thats what really keeps the water out. Have you talked to anyone at a boat supply store??
What do you name a LIME GREEN boat?
I just got a new boat- It has a bright LIME GREEN body thats so vivid you can see it from way far away! And it also has a PURPLE canvas top. It's 18 ft. long, and its a BOSTON WHALER. I need to have it named so I can make some decals soon!!!! WHAT WOULD YOU NAME IT?What do you name a LIME GREEN boat?
Seriously, I would call it "The Lime Green Boat"....if it's as vivid a color as you say, anyone that sees it will simple call her "The Lime Green Boat" anyway...not "Summer Wind", "Southern Cross", or "Ex-ta-SEA" or some other overused boat name.
Call her what she is begging to be called!!!
By the way; the name that "boating in VA" gave last time IS pretty cool..."Lime Life"
Boatin' in VA: You're Welcome!!
guess you didn't like the answer previously given to the same question posted last week so I'll just refrain from giving it again... : )
NOTE TO JASON S: thanks for the thumbs up and going to look for what was said! Wish more would conduct a search before they post the same question some else did just a short while before...or that they themselves did!What do you name a LIME GREEN boat?
People always use the expression green with envy. Perhaps you can make a name out of envy or jealousy.
I believe Kermit the Frog said it best: "it's not easy being green" therefore I would call it Kermit.What do you name a LIME GREEN boat?
Why not name it after your favorite green drink?
I would name it "Margi."
Regards,
Dan
Anything, they don't come when called.
Achilles Shield. A symbol of peace in times of turbulence.
or
Gertrude
O, *^%26amp;#( / BLIMEY
PEA POD
Lime Green purple people eater?shop bop
Seriously, I would call it "The Lime Green Boat"....if it's as vivid a color as you say, anyone that sees it will simple call her "The Lime Green Boat" anyway...not "Summer Wind", "Southern Cross", or "Ex-ta-SEA" or some other overused boat name.
Call her what she is begging to be called!!!
By the way; the name that "boating in VA" gave last time IS pretty cool..."Lime Life"
Boatin' in VA: You're Welcome!!
guess you didn't like the answer previously given to the same question posted last week so I'll just refrain from giving it again... : )
NOTE TO JASON S: thanks for the thumbs up and going to look for what was said! Wish more would conduct a search before they post the same question some else did just a short while before...or that they themselves did!What do you name a LIME GREEN boat?
People always use the expression green with envy. Perhaps you can make a name out of envy or jealousy.
I believe Kermit the Frog said it best: "it's not easy being green" therefore I would call it Kermit.What do you name a LIME GREEN boat?
Why not name it after your favorite green drink?
I would name it "Margi."
Regards,
Dan
Anything, they don't come when called.
Achilles Shield. A symbol of peace in times of turbulence.
or
Gertrude
O, *^%26amp;#( / BLIMEY
PEA POD
Lime Green purple people eater?
Top Salesman for the Month......?
A young guy from Mississippi moves to Florida and goes to a big
"everything under one roof" department store looking for a job. The Manager says, "Do
you have any sales experience?" The kid says "Yeah. I was a salesman back in
Mississippi" Well, the boss liked the kid and gave him the job. "You start tomorrow. I'll come down after we close and see how you did."
His first day on the job was rough, but he got through it. After the
store was locked up, the boss came down. "How many customers bought something from you today?
The kid says "One."
The boss says "Just one? Our sales people average 20 to 30 customers a day.
How much was the sale for?"
The kid says "$121,237.65."
The boss says "$121,237.65? What the heck did you sell?"
The kid says,"First, I sold him a small fish hook. Then I sold him a
medium fish hook, Then I sold him a larger fish hook. Then I sold him a new fishing rod. Then I asked him where he was going fishing and he said down the coast,
so I told him he was going to need a boat. So we went down to the boat department, and I sold him a twin engine Boston Whaler. Then he said he didn't think his Honda Civic would pull it, so I took him down to the automotive department and sold him that 4 x 4 Expedition."
The boss said, "A guy came in here to buy a fish hook and you sold him a BOAT and a TRUCK?"
The kid said, "No, the guy came in here to buy Tampons for his wife, and I said, "Dude, your weekend's shot, you should go fishing."Top Salesman for the Month......?
Yeah but what happens when he gets home without the tampons? Oh yeah - he ain't going home!
niceTop Salesman for the Month......?
he should be the manager then
lol =]Top Salesman for the Month......?
GOOD ONE
"everything under one roof" department store looking for a job. The Manager says, "Do
you have any sales experience?" The kid says "Yeah. I was a salesman back in
Mississippi" Well, the boss liked the kid and gave him the job. "You start tomorrow. I'll come down after we close and see how you did."
His first day on the job was rough, but he got through it. After the
store was locked up, the boss came down. "How many customers bought something from you today?
The kid says "One."
The boss says "Just one? Our sales people average 20 to 30 customers a day.
How much was the sale for?"
The kid says "$121,237.65."
The boss says "$121,237.65? What the heck did you sell?"
The kid says,"First, I sold him a small fish hook. Then I sold him a
medium fish hook, Then I sold him a larger fish hook. Then I sold him a new fishing rod. Then I asked him where he was going fishing and he said down the coast,
so I told him he was going to need a boat. So we went down to the boat department, and I sold him a twin engine Boston Whaler. Then he said he didn't think his Honda Civic would pull it, so I took him down to the automotive department and sold him that 4 x 4 Expedition."
The boss said, "A guy came in here to buy a fish hook and you sold him a BOAT and a TRUCK?"
The kid said, "No, the guy came in here to buy Tampons for his wife, and I said, "Dude, your weekend's shot, you should go fishing."Top Salesman for the Month......?
Yeah but what happens when he gets home without the tampons? Oh yeah - he ain't going home!
niceTop Salesman for the Month......?
he should be the manager then
lol =]Top Salesman for the Month......?
GOOD ONE
Proline vs Grady white?
Looking at two boats: a 2006 23' walk-around with cuddy cabin proline with a suzuki 200 hp four stroke with warranty till 11'. Got all the bells and whistles imaginable. Even a head (porta potti) for the ladies. It costs about 26k out the door. The next choice is a 2008 grady white 180 sportsman (18' center console) with a 150 hp yamaha four stroke that also has many nice features along with warranty till 11' no head though. Out the door, this one is 30.5k. Will be selling a roughly 17' palm beach center console boat. Plan on keeping the boat for a 5-10+ yrs to one day get a Boston Whaler. I understand GW are better, but it won't be the last because in about 5-10 years, I may be interested in a boston whaler, that is one reason I am leaning toward the proline. The boat will be used by a family of four that likes to fish and entertain friends and family. Any suggestions between these two would be welcomed, Thanks in advance!!!
http://marinemax.com/Page.aspx/diid/1899476/list/InventoryList/pageId/85/view/Details/2008-Grady-White-180-SPORTSMAN.aspx
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2006-PRO---LINE-23-WA-95222078Proline vs Grady white?
Simple, if you want to take the family out, get the boat with the head in it. Using a bucket for the ladies does not last! Both boats are good, as are the engines. You get more for your money, better equipped, and in 5 years you will be looking at something else.Proline vs Grady white?
Tough call. Grady White is the better boat, but Suzuki is the better motor. If you plan on over-nighting, the Proline , but the GW will be a more fun ride, and better to fish out of. I would probably take the GW, but it would be nice if it had a Suzuki or Merc Verado hanging on it.Proline vs Grady white?
2 completely different boats 4+ people in a 18 ' boats is cramped. Proline is not the best buy. Grady white never impressed me.If your want a fishing boat or a cabin boat Heads can be on center console but tight fit.Keep looking around as there are great buys try and cover all your needs and then work on the price with them.Boston Whaler will beat you to death as they are hard riding. Low sides. Unless it's in the 25' and above.
Grady is a better know and today built boat. But you are looking for a boat for the WIFE and kids. The Walk-around cuddy with a porta-potti will make staying out on the water more fun for them. So for the family and all around fun on the water go with the ProLine. Not a bad price.
I have a 23' Pro-Line and I love it. It replaced a 17 Center console Pro-Line. This boat has fished the Chesapeake Bay and off shore out of Indian River DE and Ocean City MD.
I have friends that have Grady's and I have worked on them. If you where going to be getting the boat for you and a friend to fish out of the 18' Grady CC would be great.
Good Luck - Boat Safe!
http://marinemax.com/Page.aspx/diid/1899476/list/InventoryList/pageId/85/view/Details/2008-Grady-White-180-SPORTSMAN.aspx
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2006-PRO---LINE-23-WA-95222078Proline vs Grady white?
Simple, if you want to take the family out, get the boat with the head in it. Using a bucket for the ladies does not last! Both boats are good, as are the engines. You get more for your money, better equipped, and in 5 years you will be looking at something else.Proline vs Grady white?
Tough call. Grady White is the better boat, but Suzuki is the better motor. If you plan on over-nighting, the Proline , but the GW will be a more fun ride, and better to fish out of. I would probably take the GW, but it would be nice if it had a Suzuki or Merc Verado hanging on it.Proline vs Grady white?
2 completely different boats 4+ people in a 18 ' boats is cramped. Proline is not the best buy. Grady white never impressed me.If your want a fishing boat or a cabin boat Heads can be on center console but tight fit.Keep looking around as there are great buys try and cover all your needs and then work on the price with them.Boston Whaler will beat you to death as they are hard riding. Low sides. Unless it's in the 25' and above.
Grady is a better know and today built boat. But you are looking for a boat for the WIFE and kids. The Walk-around cuddy with a porta-potti will make staying out on the water more fun for them. So for the family and all around fun on the water go with the ProLine. Not a bad price.
I have a 23' Pro-Line and I love it. It replaced a 17 Center console Pro-Line. This boat has fished the Chesapeake Bay and off shore out of Indian River DE and Ocean City MD.
I have friends that have Grady's and I have worked on them. If you where going to be getting the boat for you and a friend to fish out of the 18' Grady CC would be great.
Good Luck - Boat Safe!
I didn't winterize my boat!!!!!!!!?
I have a 15ft boston whaler with a 75hp Mercury outboard on it.
all I did to it for the winter was pull the drain plug for the boat in the bilge and empty the fuel tank and i also pulled out the
battery I live in jersey and it can get pretty cold, I'm pretty sure
that can effect the motor.
What can i expect to deal with when i try to start it in the spring?I didn't winterize my boat!!!!!!!!?
Just make sure the engine is in the full down position so that it has drained out and no water is standing in the exhuast /prop hub area. When you are ready to use it lube up the fittings, and test run it using the flush out attachment and make sure its all good. Next year winterize it by running the engine on land with the flush out, fog it till it quits, let the water drain out while you lube it up (grease fittings on steering and engine pivot) and spray it down with silicone spray. Top off fuel tank and add Sta-Bil. Change lower unit oil and water pump, install new zincs. Remove battery and store for winter by covering and keep boat bow up. If you stored it like that I bet you have no damage at all.
Wow, lots of interesting/wrong answers here.
You are not going to crack your block. If you will crack anything, it will be your gearcase, but thats only if you have a large amount of water in there, which you likely don't.
I really wouldn't worry too much about it, but don't make a habit of skipping winterization. The whole idea of winterization is to protect your engine through the cold weather, and to assure it fires up for you in the spring time.
One important thing to take care of over the winter is your fuel. This new fuel with ethanol in it does not last very long unless you stabilize it, and it is prone to attracting water.
When spring rolls around, give your engine a basic tune up (change gear oil, grease the fittings, and steering cable,) and run it up on fresh fuel for a little bit.
If you haven't done a water pump in 2 years or more, I'd do that too, along with the thermostat and poppet valve. You'll be ok.I didn't winterize my boat!!!!!!!!?
Dont worry so much!
It all depends on when you last used the boat. Winterization of outboards is more about "storage" than keeping the engine from freezing. When the engine in in the full down position, it only takes a few minutes to drain 90% of the water out of the engine. There are a few areas that trap small amounts. The real concern is the cold temps cause condensation which can cause problems on the crankshaft bearings, and wiring. If you kept the engine in a dry environment, that's better than covered with a tarp. But, first, I'd spray everything with WD-40, which is intended to drive out moisture. Then start the engine as soon as possible (now)and let it run up to temperature for half an hour or so. Then spray some "fogging oil' in to the engine....carb....... keep it in the full down position and let drain. Then take whats left of the fogging oil and spray everything. You should make sure that snow or water hasn't cracked the gear case where the exhaust comes out thru the prop. Cover it next winter. Lube the steering and engine mounts. Get it started early this spring and use it as soon as the weather clears and warms u some. More engines fail due to lack of use than ware out. Bottom line, don't worry too much. Edit: Boating in No.VA, has a good question, If water/snow was piled up or filling the lowerunit thru-hub exhaust it can crack from just behind the prop down about 3 to 4 inches. Not always visible, but it stops when it reaches the back of the bearing carrier. It can be welded but if you do, you can't take the carrier out again, which means if you have bearing or gear failure later, your looking at a new expensive housing, more than the motor's worth in most cases. I've never seen any....I repeat any ... powerheads that had a cracked block from freezing. It's always at the bottom. The crack can expand over time and threaten the gearcase integrety, but the oil would be gunmetal gray or green now. If the seals had already been leaking, the oil would be white, but would seldom freeze.....I've never seen one. If there was that much water in it, the gearcase is toast anyway. Thanks for the input..........EDIT......... It's good news that the motor was down, it makes it much more likely no lower unit damage. But go back to the early advise, to start the engine and fog it, and spray everything, i know it's a lot of trouble but a few weeks or a couple moths can make a difference.. Good Luck!
You might have cracked the block or the bottom end of the motor. You should definitely take your motor into a marine repair shop to have them inspect the motor for damage before you operate it. There could be a simple inexpensive repair needed that will otherwise result in serious damage.
There are other things that you should do with your boat besides removing the drain plug. Covering the boat will protect it from snow and dirt and make your investment last longer. Doing some of these things now could be better than doing nothing. Better late than never, as the saying goes.
See the source link below for a quick guide for winter lay up for next fall.I didn't winterize my boat!!!!!!!!?
if there was no sand in the cooling system you should be ok. outboards are self draining. you should have put fuel stabilizer in the last time you had it out. worst case scenario, you will have gummed up fuel in the system. i would take it to a qualified dealer in the spring to get summerized. for now i would pull the spark plugs and spray some fogging oil in the cylinders and turn the flywheel bt hand 10 or so times, and do this a couple of times.
i know alot of people that dont winterize there outboards. because the outboard is in the down position most of the water did drain out. draining the gas is good all though alot of people like to run fuel stabilizer so it gets all the way to the carbs. keeps them from gumming up. also keeping the tank full will keep air from destroying the octane in the fuel that is left in there. your probably fine. might have a little trouble starting it when spring comes, if so rebuild the carbs.
Just fog the inside of hte motor, which is really the only thing that you didn't already do anyway. It will probably be fine even if you do nothing though.
Question for Richard as I know nothing about o/b's but...
Can he tell if he has done any harm to the engine by checking the oil and seeing if it's milky white or any other shade than what oil should look like?
you should have emptied the lower unit, they can
get water in
Get the engine straight up and down, that is the biggie. Outboard engines will drain themselves if you trim them all the way down. If it is not, get it warm, and then trim it down.
You are gonna want to drain the lower unit as quick as you can. If there is any water in that gear lube it can be trouble. She is going to come out like molasses so just leave the pan under it for awhile and don't refill until the temp. comes up.
Can you drain the carb? Do that if you can to keep from get varish in there. On the first tank of the spring run premium gas and an additive called SeaFoam, as a matter of fact run this for the first couple tankfuls to clean it out.
When you first use the engine in the spring watch the engine temp. If it begins to climb or the tell tale is not spitting shut her down and replace the impeller. Water freezes in the lower unit and plays havoc with those rubber blades. Make sure when you change the impeller to get all the little pieces out of there.
Other than that you should be good to go.
Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there's a good chance you may discover a busted block and bottom end come spring! Not winterizing your boat and motor is a HUGE NO NO! I hope your a very lucky guy and everything's O.K. because if not, your outboard may now be best used as an anchor! I'd look at it now because there's still a lot of cold weather left. If it managed this far undamaged, try to go ahead and winterize the motor anyway! You could be talking BIG $$$$$!!! Hope your luck's better than mine!
all I did to it for the winter was pull the drain plug for the boat in the bilge and empty the fuel tank and i also pulled out the
battery I live in jersey and it can get pretty cold, I'm pretty sure
that can effect the motor.
What can i expect to deal with when i try to start it in the spring?I didn't winterize my boat!!!!!!!!?
Just make sure the engine is in the full down position so that it has drained out and no water is standing in the exhuast /prop hub area. When you are ready to use it lube up the fittings, and test run it using the flush out attachment and make sure its all good. Next year winterize it by running the engine on land with the flush out, fog it till it quits, let the water drain out while you lube it up (grease fittings on steering and engine pivot) and spray it down with silicone spray. Top off fuel tank and add Sta-Bil. Change lower unit oil and water pump, install new zincs. Remove battery and store for winter by covering and keep boat bow up. If you stored it like that I bet you have no damage at all.
Wow, lots of interesting/wrong answers here.
You are not going to crack your block. If you will crack anything, it will be your gearcase, but thats only if you have a large amount of water in there, which you likely don't.
I really wouldn't worry too much about it, but don't make a habit of skipping winterization. The whole idea of winterization is to protect your engine through the cold weather, and to assure it fires up for you in the spring time.
One important thing to take care of over the winter is your fuel. This new fuel with ethanol in it does not last very long unless you stabilize it, and it is prone to attracting water.
When spring rolls around, give your engine a basic tune up (change gear oil, grease the fittings, and steering cable,) and run it up on fresh fuel for a little bit.
If you haven't done a water pump in 2 years or more, I'd do that too, along with the thermostat and poppet valve. You'll be ok.I didn't winterize my boat!!!!!!!!?
Dont worry so much!
It all depends on when you last used the boat. Winterization of outboards is more about "storage" than keeping the engine from freezing. When the engine in in the full down position, it only takes a few minutes to drain 90% of the water out of the engine. There are a few areas that trap small amounts. The real concern is the cold temps cause condensation which can cause problems on the crankshaft bearings, and wiring. If you kept the engine in a dry environment, that's better than covered with a tarp. But, first, I'd spray everything with WD-40, which is intended to drive out moisture. Then start the engine as soon as possible (now)and let it run up to temperature for half an hour or so. Then spray some "fogging oil' in to the engine....carb....... keep it in the full down position and let drain. Then take whats left of the fogging oil and spray everything. You should make sure that snow or water hasn't cracked the gear case where the exhaust comes out thru the prop. Cover it next winter. Lube the steering and engine mounts. Get it started early this spring and use it as soon as the weather clears and warms u some. More engines fail due to lack of use than ware out. Bottom line, don't worry too much. Edit: Boating in No.VA, has a good question, If water/snow was piled up or filling the lowerunit thru-hub exhaust it can crack from just behind the prop down about 3 to 4 inches. Not always visible, but it stops when it reaches the back of the bearing carrier. It can be welded but if you do, you can't take the carrier out again, which means if you have bearing or gear failure later, your looking at a new expensive housing, more than the motor's worth in most cases. I've never seen any....I repeat any ... powerheads that had a cracked block from freezing. It's always at the bottom. The crack can expand over time and threaten the gearcase integrety, but the oil would be gunmetal gray or green now. If the seals had already been leaking, the oil would be white, but would seldom freeze.....I've never seen one. If there was that much water in it, the gearcase is toast anyway. Thanks for the input..........EDIT......... It's good news that the motor was down, it makes it much more likely no lower unit damage. But go back to the early advise, to start the engine and fog it, and spray everything, i know it's a lot of trouble but a few weeks or a couple moths can make a difference.. Good Luck!
You might have cracked the block or the bottom end of the motor. You should definitely take your motor into a marine repair shop to have them inspect the motor for damage before you operate it. There could be a simple inexpensive repair needed that will otherwise result in serious damage.
There are other things that you should do with your boat besides removing the drain plug. Covering the boat will protect it from snow and dirt and make your investment last longer. Doing some of these things now could be better than doing nothing. Better late than never, as the saying goes.
See the source link below for a quick guide for winter lay up for next fall.I didn't winterize my boat!!!!!!!!?
if there was no sand in the cooling system you should be ok. outboards are self draining. you should have put fuel stabilizer in the last time you had it out. worst case scenario, you will have gummed up fuel in the system. i would take it to a qualified dealer in the spring to get summerized. for now i would pull the spark plugs and spray some fogging oil in the cylinders and turn the flywheel bt hand 10 or so times, and do this a couple of times.
i know alot of people that dont winterize there outboards. because the outboard is in the down position most of the water did drain out. draining the gas is good all though alot of people like to run fuel stabilizer so it gets all the way to the carbs. keeps them from gumming up. also keeping the tank full will keep air from destroying the octane in the fuel that is left in there. your probably fine. might have a little trouble starting it when spring comes, if so rebuild the carbs.
Just fog the inside of hte motor, which is really the only thing that you didn't already do anyway. It will probably be fine even if you do nothing though.
Question for Richard as I know nothing about o/b's but...
Can he tell if he has done any harm to the engine by checking the oil and seeing if it's milky white or any other shade than what oil should look like?
you should have emptied the lower unit, they can
get water in
Get the engine straight up and down, that is the biggie. Outboard engines will drain themselves if you trim them all the way down. If it is not, get it warm, and then trim it down.
You are gonna want to drain the lower unit as quick as you can. If there is any water in that gear lube it can be trouble. She is going to come out like molasses so just leave the pan under it for awhile and don't refill until the temp. comes up.
Can you drain the carb? Do that if you can to keep from get varish in there. On the first tank of the spring run premium gas and an additive called SeaFoam, as a matter of fact run this for the first couple tankfuls to clean it out.
When you first use the engine in the spring watch the engine temp. If it begins to climb or the tell tale is not spitting shut her down and replace the impeller. Water freezes in the lower unit and plays havoc with those rubber blades. Make sure when you change the impeller to get all the little pieces out of there.
Other than that you should be good to go.
Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there's a good chance you may discover a busted block and bottom end come spring! Not winterizing your boat and motor is a HUGE NO NO! I hope your a very lucky guy and everything's O.K. because if not, your outboard may now be best used as an anchor! I'd look at it now because there's still a lot of cold weather left. If it managed this far undamaged, try to go ahead and winterize the motor anyway! You could be talking BIG $$$$$!!! Hope your luck's better than mine!
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